Yes, I agree Cyberwolf-boy can be a bit long winded. This movie, though, wasn't so bad. As a long time gamer, I had to put aside my White wolf standards of play and remember that most people who watch aren't as imaginative. In that respect, Underworld was very entertaining. Those who don't agree should go back to their own fields of play and not bother with the cinema again. They will always be disappointed.